Sergej
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SpectatorYou could check with the archives in Kotor to see what they have.
Sergej
SpectatorDear Antonio,
The ring is not from Serbia that is something that is 100% sure. However I cannot say where you should look for other former Yugoslav republics. What can be said for sure is that its not local meaning Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia or Bosnia and even Croatia. Perhaps Slovenia or Hungary and Austria but the problem is that the amount of arms in those countries surpass 30.000 so its not a quick look that we can do.
There are two things you can yourself:
1.http://www.blazonsearch.com/ see if anything from the blazon is listed here,
2. Try tp figure out the name of the person from who the ring was. Coat of Arms are not connected to surnames.I am afraid this is where our help stops. We had one of top heralds look into it and he didn’t recognize it. However we will leave this topic here just in case. Sorry we couldn’t find a match.
Sergej
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Sergej
SpectatorHi Greg, sure you can share a link. We just have a strict policy for commercial stuff but family pages dont fall under that.
Sergej
SpectatorDear all,
We are adding new features that are important to especially our foreign visitors. One of them is the upgrading of our article system and further adding of online tools besides feeds. The layout of the site will not change but we will fix minor issues here and there. Downbelow is a list of things you can expect from us:
* Windows Live applications and My Yahoo,
* Updated article system,
* Easier navigation throughout the whole site,For our Serbian friends we will fix the grammatical errors on the site soon and wrap up other translations. We do need volunteers however so if you see errors just let us know in this thread!!
If you want to contribute articles for Genealogy please let us know and you can get access to our article section.
Sergej
SpectatorQuote:Hello Sergej
I have good news and bad news.
I’ll explain first of all. 10 years ago I called our local college to see If there were any Serbian translators there,as luck happend, there was,the lady came out to see me and actually got the telephone number of one of my cousins ( at this point I wanted to trace my lost family ) the translator called my cousin and she was very very happy,telling the translator to give me her love etc I decided to call myself the following night,I can only say the basic words In Serbian, such as hello how are you,etc so as you will gather there was not much of a conversation,her husband then appeared on the telephone and sounded very angry and eratic,I did not understand a word he said,but If the tone of his voice had anything to go by, It wasnt very nice,he then abruptly hung up the telephone.I was very saddend by this so I just accepted that I was a part of the family they didnt want to know, so I just left It at that.
Well could be of many reasons, but lets say her marriage aint that good
Quote:I have been clearing out some old papers/letters tonight and I came accross my old Diary, I still have my cousins telephone number In there
I dont know If they will still have the same number as this was from 10 years ago.
Bad news : I cant speak Serbo, so Im gonna have to learn then I can call her and find out where my father was born !!

You could consider SGS membership, see the FAQ page on that.
Quote:I came there to visit with my mother and sister In the late 70’s Sergej.My family lived In Sabac and still lived there 10 years ago,although my cousins father Milenko and my Cousin Miodrag had both sadly passed away.There was then Milan who lived In Beograd,and Danica who I think moved away to Germany many years ago. My fathers other Brother Ninko lived In Novi Sad and worked on the railroad,I never went there, but both Milenko and Ninko came here to England to visit us.There was also another Brother ( the elder) named Petronia,and a sister named Nada.I never got to meet Petronia or Nada.I would Imagine my uncle Petronia will have passed by now as he would probably be In his late 80’s. I also have a step sister out there somewhere named Ivanka,I did meet her once when she came to England to visit us In the early 70’s.I was only a small girl back then.Well you have the dates of you uncles, then its easy to find out where you father was born.
Listen, membership is the best option. We help you with the Serbian translations and you stay on top of it yourself. You get a online family tree at the site here and that might help you as well finding other relatives. Either way, you’ve been in Sabac and writing to the local archives there will give the birth records of your uncle’s with all info you need even with info about your ggrandparents.
Sergej
SpectatorDiana,
Saint George will be your family saint then, thats important to know in case you meet other people with the same surname. You can then identify if you are from the same tree. Yes do ask the priest, he should be able to tell you something. In case there isn’t a Serbian Orthodox Church, people can go to the Greek Orthodox Church. The differences are minor but both of them are Orthodox.
Yes calling them would be the best option, just say you need help. It is not uncommon to travell via Italy or Germany to reach the UK in those day’s, and since the record keeping was good I expect you will find the info. It may look difficult but take your time.
As for Krajina and Serbs in general. People are people so you will meet a-holes everywhere
The area has been hit heavily by the last war so be aware that some people will be helpfull and some others will be complete jerks. Such is live.As for Kosovo, Kosovo has an Albanian population that doesn’t get along well with the Serbian population. Thats why they want independence. Yes so you will run the risk of getting fallout of what happenened(s) there. What can I say, politics. Better to stay away from it.
Something else that you might stumble upon. Some people in SE Europe believe that ones religion changes their ethnic background e.g. Orthodox=Serb and Catholic=Crotian. Just ignore that because thats just baloney, part of some politics as well. Just concentrate on facts and stay clear of the political turmoil.
Let me know what you find out calling immigration and the priest.
Sergej
SpectatorWhat you can do is write the archives there e.g. with the dates. You could also contact the FHLC of the LDS church since they microfilmed most of the things there in that region. Go to http://www.familysearch.org and see in the Family History Library if that area is availible. Otherwise just write to the Archives there.
Sergej
SpectatorQuote:I have been talking with my mother,asking about old pics/documents etc and she said that over the years they have all been lost! I cant believe It.That sucks.
Quote:We have nothing at all.I have no Idea at all where exactly my father came from,It was for this reason that I was hoping to find the origin of my name. I have mailed someone that I found on the Youtube site who was actually born In Krajina and still lives there and he Is unfamiliar with my name! he told me that It Is most likely Italian ( catalan ) or spanish! this cannot be true!Well I dont think Youtube is a good source. The name is Serbian and is also used today in Serbia and Croatia. It is from that region. The problem in that region is that people moved inbetween from Krajina, Dalmatia and Kosovo. The name is not Spanish, thats just nonsense.
Quote:I know that this must seem like a silly question, so forgive me,but do you have to be of Greek Origin to be baptized Greek Orthodox ? The Vicentic you mention In the Immigration records ? could you tell me If this Is a ”Zivan” ?The Orthodox Church has different branches, Greek Orthodox, Serbian Orthodox. I dont know if your ancestors were Orthodox or Catholic. To be hounest you can’t really determine it by just a surname. Also Serbs are both Catholic and Orthodox, some are Muslim. I do not know if there is a family saint to your knowledge in your family. There must be something that was left behind?
You need to first find all the Vićentić in the UK immigration records. Its a rare name so you will have more luck in finding a link to the place of origin.
Sergej
SpectatorDoes the priest have any specific dates like excerpts from birth records and such? That would be of great help.
Sergej
SpectatorVićentić would be the correct spelling and is most likely a Serbian family that lived in the Krajina region in Croatia. Most of them reside now in Serbia after the war. From what I know there are 2 branches 1 Catholic and 1 Orthodox.
The problem you have is that you need to know where they came from. You need a place to search for. Do you have any pictures, items, cards, letters anything that can give a link? The V’s above the letters are very important because in certain cases they can change the meaning of a word.
I checked some records and the surname Vićentić is mentioned in the immigration records in the UK. So you should check those records with this exact spelling and collect all the items.
You might want to consider joinin the SGS as a member since we help people translate items and you can put your family tree online on our site –>http://www.rodoslovlje.com/voyager/rodoslov/
See these links for record research in the UK:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/visit/plan.htm
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/
http://www.bl.uk/collections/oiocfamilyhistory/family.html
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/Whatever you do you first need to find a link to a place. Then you can continue so your research starts in the UK. Members can scan in pictures etc. and send them to us so we can identify places and locations. We advice people membership and to do their research themselves and not to hire researchers. We do not mediate either, our experience shows that it gives people more trouble and doing research themselves makes it more special

Let me know if you need more help.
Sergej
SpectatorNazalost nemamo neko ko zivi u Pirotu. Stavio sam fajl na Attachments –>
March 1, 2007 at 9:51 am in reply to: Frequently used surnames in Benkovac, Kistanje, Ervenik, Dalmatia #28536Sergej
SpectatorMihajlo,
Jel da si probao kod http://www.plato.co.yu
Sergej
SpectatorHi,
What I mean is that we need a place of birth in Serbia before we can make comments about a surname. Otherwise it will be very general and it might not even be the same family.
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