[Sergej]

Hi,

I will need some more information before I go answer that question.
Where did he emigrate to? To the US? If so did you check with Ellis Island?
Pavkov is a name that is used inside Serbia. As to if its “Serbian”, that is something that can only be answered when one takes a look at the pedigree chart. Do you have any information to spare such as religion, family saint if applicable, name of theperson that moved and when from where etc.

[Sergej]

Dmitrij,

Yes I know the communists wrecked a lot of things. See if you can find something, also from your personal family items, like cards, certificates, family saint etc. Anything that can give you any information.

Let me know if you find something usefull, good luck.

[Sergej]

Zdravo,

Probaj: http://www.webstrane.com/

Tomic–> Paštrović od njih su u Kotoru (oko 1423 god.) Ima više info kod Arhiv Crne Gore.

[Sergej]

Hello Dmitrij,

In order for you to know for sure you should check with your local archives in Russia first to see when your family moved there. Once you reach the 19th century you will see that someone most likely moved from Serbia. You will need a place of birth of that ancestor that moved to Russia to determine which family it is. Prisnjak can be found in Serbia but I am unsure if its just 1 branch or more families with the same surname.

Hope that helps

[Sergej]

Yes I believe it is more accurate to say that just as in Serbian in Albanian as well you use Patronims. Now it is a known fact that e.g. Jankovic is used by both Serbs, Croats and Alabnians. It is derived from the name Janko a name that is used by all 3 its even being used in Germany

Thats why genealogy is a science, you need to gather the names and create a family tree. It is very well possible there is a Kolar family that is both Serbian, Croatian and Albanian while there is no real connection between them besides the same surname.

Either way feel free put your pedigree online here at our site and if you know of anyone who is willing to translate let me know.

[Sergej]

Try http://www.arhivrs.org/ and the Serbian Orthodox Church.

[Sergej]

I split the thread because it wasn’t really relative to the clan discussion. Finding out your family history can be done by inquiring at the archives. You should write them with what information you have now. The fact that you have dates and family saint information gives you a good head start.

[Sergej]

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/voyager/rodoslov/whatsnew.php

Sad nova verzija

[Sergej]

Hi Doug,

To answer some of your questions.

Yes in Serbia we use Patronims so the usage of the surname is correct. The Patronim is the one who assumed to surname and the sons would use that surname since the first registration of that surname. So most likely one of your ancestors registered that surname and since then that is the family name. Serbia has the same system as most Western European countries. Of course before the general surname system you would use the firstname of your father and add -vic to it.

As for the name of Braunović, it is a name that originated in Montenegro in Donja Morača and is already in the archives mentioned at 1251 and 1574. The surname these day’s can be found in the former Serbian enclaves in Croatia as well such as Krajina. Most likely they migrated to those areas some time ago that would explain the birth certificate from Zagreb.

Braun in Serbian is virtually the same meaning as in German –>Brown

Hope this helps.

[Sergej]

Hi,

any news on the pictures? Please attach them to this post.

[Sergej]

Rofl, yea I know. The pace of life is slower in Serbia and most people inside Serbia are not aware of how life is outside of Serbia.

[Sergej]

Charles,

Go to http://www.rodoslovlje.com/voyager/member.php and scroll down. There you can select SGS Membership. Then click order and you are being redirected.

[Sergej]

Pozdrav,

Prvo vidi http://www.arhivrs.org/ i probaj kod Pravoslavna Crkva

[Sergej]

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Yes, B stands for births, M for marriages and D for deaths.

I have received this list from frinds at FHL, so please don’t credit me for it and it would be best if you leave my name off.

Okidey no worries. I am checking some data but from what I know none of the Serbian Orthodox records inside Serbia have been microfilmed. I know of 1 archive trying to digitalize items,and thats about it. We’ll see if policy will change and allow GSU to microfilm in the future. I believe privacy is the biggest concern.

[Sergej]

KovaЍević- jedno od vrlo frekventnih prezimena na celom srpskom i hrvatskom jeziЍkom podruЍju. Vodi koje je potvrđeno 1399 god. u Srbiji. Visoku frekvenciju ovog prezime nije teško objasniti ako se uzme u obzir da je svako naseljeno mesto moralo imate bar jednog profesionalnog kovaЍa, Ѝoveka koji bio apsolutno neophodan za cbe metalne alate i oruđa za zemljoradnju i stoЍarstvo. U nekim našim krajevima kovaЍ je sinonim za majstora svih zanata, a naroЍito za kamenoresce, što je takođe moglo uticati na uЍestalost ovog patronimijskog oblika.

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